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Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 7, 2016 Wizard Widowmaker DOES have a separate sensitivity for zoomed in scope. You have to select Widowmaker at the top right("All Heroes") selection, and "Relative Aim Sensitivity While Zoomed" will appear under the HERO category, below the reticle. At 103 FoV, relative aim sensitivity has to be 38 to be equivalent to unzoomed sensitivity in screen distance travelled. (Explanation by someone else here) Oh, there was a second page detailing it. Anyhow, 38 is what you're looking for if you want equivalent to zoom_sensitivity 1 in CS:GO, as that makes it the same movement to cover the same screen distance regardless of scoping. Great info, thanks! Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 7, 2016 Wizard Overwatch is now updated with full support for the Relative Aim Sensitivity for Widowmaker And it's not Relative Aim 38 to match the screen distance at 103 FOV, it's 50. And the math is quite simple; The Relative Aim is a multiplier, and the FOV is about half. So by setting it to 50 your 360 distance doubles, but since the the FOV is ~half, the screen distance is the same. Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 7, 2016 Wizard Unfortunately there is no way to directly convert screen distance between games for now, but I plan to add this. The way you have to do it now is like this: Select Windows as "Convert from" and enter your desired distance. This is the 2D distance, meaning how far you want to move your mouse to cross the screen in Windows. Then select Overwatch and Hipfire as Convert to: Now note the Sensitivity 1 for Overwatch (5) and the ratio (6.0316). Then select Widowmaker ADS in the Convert to Aim, and enter 5 as Sensitivity 1: It now calculates that with Sensitivity 5 you need to set the Relative aim to 50 to get a ratio of 6.0908, which is the closest match possible to 6.0316 I have double checked this in-game, and it is correct. Link to comment
Ankore 1 Posted May 7, 2016 Unfortunately there is no way to directly convert screen distance between games for now, but I plan to add this. The way you have to do it now is like this: Select Windows as "Convert from" and enter your desired distance. This is the 2D distance, meaning how far you want to move your mouse to cross the screen in Windows. Then select Overwatch and Hipfire as Convert to: overwatch-win-1.JPG Now note the Sensitivity 1 for Overwatch (5) and the ratio (6.0316). Then select Widowmaker ADS in the Convert to Aim, and enter 5 as Sensitivity 1: overwatch-win-2.JPG It now calculates that with Sensitivity 5 you need to set the Relative aim to 50 to get a ratio of 6.0908, which is the closest match possible to 6.0316 I have double checked this in-game, and it is correct. I've made me a mess and don't understand anything :c I have 10 hipfire with 800dpi at 1080p.. what sensitivity I need on widowmaker to feel the same way? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 7, 2016 Wizard I've made me a mess and don't understand anything :c I have 10 hipfire with 800dpi at 1080p.. what sensitivity I need on widowmaker to feel the same way? With default FOV (103) it will always be 50! But if you change FOV, it gets very tedious for now... To get the most accurate result with different FOV, here's what you do (and this is not very intuitive...). First you need to find a constant for your ratio, and as of now the only game to support ratio conversion is osu!. So enter values like this, converting from Overwatch with in this case 90 FOV and your other settings to osu!, note the Keep field in the Convert to section, osu! allows you to select either distance or ratio, which is key here. Select ratio: Now take note of the osu! sensitivity, 1.41 in this case. Use this, and convert from osu! to Overwatch and Widowmaker like this: This conversion will keep the ratios as close as possible, so with 90 FOV in overwatch the correct Relative Aim for Widowmaker is 57, assuming resolution and monitor size is the same between all conversions (important!). Link to comment
Ankore 1 Posted May 7, 2016 With default FOV (103) it will always be 50! But if you change FOV, it gets very tedious for now... To get the most accurate result with different FOV, here's what you do (and this is not very intuitive...). First you need to find a constant for your ratio, and as of now the only game to support ratio conversion is osu!. So enter values like this, converting from Overwatch with in this case 90 FOV and your other settings to osu!, note the Keep field in the Convert to section, osu! allows you to select either distance or ratio, which is key here. Select ratio: overwatchosu1.JPG Now take note of the osu! sensitivity, 1.41 in this case. Use this, and convert from osu! to Overwatch and Widowmaker like this: overwatchosu2.JPG This conversion will keep the ratios as close as possible, so with 90 FOV in overwatch the correct Relative Aim for Widowmaker is 57, assuming resolution and monitor size is the same between all conversions (important!). My fov is 103 as default so 50 sens for widow works fine for me as I tested right now. Thank you! btw, is accurate? I mean does it has discrepancy between 10 on hipfire and 50 on widowmaker? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 7, 2016 Wizard btw, is accurate? I mean does it has discrepancy between 10 on hipfire and 50 on widowmaker? It's as accurate as it can get it without any decimals. Still it should not be off by more than max 1% though. Ankore 1 Link to comment
Dergless 1 Posted May 8, 2016 It's as accurate as it can get it without any decimals. Still it should not be off by more than max 1% though. This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much! Link to comment
brokenbt 1 Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Overwatch is now updated with full support for the Relative Aim Sensitivity for Widowmaker And it's not Relative Aim 38 to match the screen distance at 103 FOV, it's 50. And the math is quite simple; The Relative Aim is a multiplier, and the FOV is about half. So by setting it to 50 your 360 distance doubles, but since the the FOV is ~half, the screen distance is the same. Do you know what setting Relative Aim Sensitivity to 0 does? It feels really good and I have been using that. Edited May 10, 2016 by brokenbt Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 10, 2016 Wizard Do you know what setting Relative Aim Sensitivity to 0 does? It feels really good and I have been using that. 0 is the same as the default of 30. Link to comment
brokenbt 1 Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks. Strong placebo then, it felt much better than 30. Link to comment
Bernd Matthys 18 Posted May 12, 2016 Could you add Widow zoom sensitivity that is equal to zoom_sensitivity_ratio "1" in CS:GO? yeah, and maybe for battlefield also, and in the future for all games containing a sniper rifle LOL Link to comment
gondorianze 0 Posted May 24, 2016 Did anyone try the Overwatch sensivities? When i compare mine with cs. It is real slow? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 24, 2016 Wizard Did anyone try the Overwatch sensivities? When i compare mine with cs. It is real slow? What values are you using? Link to comment
gondorianze 0 Posted May 24, 2016 Did anyone try the Overwatch sensivity comperison? I tried Overwatch from CS sensivity. 1.6 sens (19020x1080, 800DPI) gives me 5sensivity for Overwatch which is exteremely low????? Link to comment
gondorianze 0 Posted May 24, 2016 Did anyone try the Overwatch sensivity comperison? I tried Overwatch from CS sensivity. 1.6 sens (19020x1080, 800DPI) gives me 5sensivity for Overwatch which is exteremely low????? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 24, 2016 Wizard 1.6 sens (19020x1080, 800DPI) gives me 5sensivity for Overwatch which is exteremely low????? Just verified that nothing changed between beta and release, so this should be correct. It will be off by about 6% though, since the Overwatch sensitivity is limited to whole numbers. But other than that it shouldn't feel too slow. Link to comment
gondorianze 0 Posted May 25, 2016 Just verified that nothing changed between beta and release, so this should be correct. It will be off by about 6% though, since the Overwatch sensitivity is limited to whole numbers. But other than that it shouldn't feel too slow. You are right i missarranged my windows sensivity. It is perfectly works!! Thanks a lot Link to comment
sonorciff 0 Posted May 26, 2016 People over on Reddit still seem to be going by 38 instead of 50 for Widowmaker, based on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4i0qdn/how_to_make_your_widowmaker_scoped_sensitivity/ Is that wrong? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 26, 2016 Wizard People over on Reddit still seem to be going by 38 instead of 50 for Widowmaker, based on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4i0qdn/how_to_make_your_widowmaker_scoped_sensitivity/ Is that wrong? Definitely, the formula is a lot simpler than that. The sensitivity scales linearly with FOV (for scoped, not for regular FOV), so it is simply 51/103=49.51. So by setting the relative aim to 50, you are effectively doubling the 360 distance, but since the FOV is half, the crosshair will cover the same 2D distance sonorciff 1 Link to comment
kznlol 0 Posted May 27, 2016 I'd like to understand more about why they're wrong - can you tell what they think they were doing with the formula they were using? When you look at this thread, which deals with a similar question in CS:GO, the guy finds two different numbers, one of which is correct for small mouse movements and one of which is correct for large mouse movements. Why are we only finding one number for OW? Link to comment
Wizard DPI Wizard 3,889 Posted May 27, 2016 Wizard Actually, let me moderate my answer a little; 50 is correct for edge-to-edge screen movement, while 37 is correct for moving 1 count. The more you move with 37, the more it (quickly) deviates from the hipfire distance, and with 50 it's opposite; it gets more correct the more you move. I'll see if I can get a video up showing this Noupoi 1 Link to comment
Hector Felix 0 Posted May 27, 2016 Hey all, Been trying to wrap my head around the relative aim sensitivity. I currently doing the following settings: https://gyazo.com/b1576588830d5d1f6fb718a86a075bd5 From a sensitivity of 2 in game for over watch since I think that's where I should be at to match BF4. Where should I put Relative aim sensitivity to match my BF4 experience? Anyone know? Love this site btw, been a long time member! Best, Dazs Link to comment
stereo3D 41 Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) are you playing bf4 with the default fov? do you have uniform aiming enabled with the coefficient at 133 %? and what's your fov in overwatch? Edited May 28, 2016 by stereo3D Link to comment
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