Hello I currently own a Logitech g303 shroud edition. I'm having issues where my mouse sens feels way to fast on every mouse I've owned. One minute I can aim just fine then the next day I can't at all. It's like some hidden mouse acceleration like ice. Like I said before some days I could aim just fine and the cursor feels very controllable. Any help on this? 

Not sure, but it might be a surface tuning issue. Have you played around with that in G Hub?

I've uninstalled ghub 

1 minute ago, Alastorsx said:

I've uninstalled ghub 

The surfacing tuning might still be wrong, so I would install it and test the different settings.

I don't think it has surface tuning I've never seen the option for it unless they added it

3 minutes ago, Alastorsx said:

I don't think it has surface tuning I've never seen the option for it unless they added it

It's in the device settings if it's supported, not in the DPI/assignments settings:

I installed again I dont see that option only the profile settings

have you tried tweaking the dpi?

if you have, find your old mouse and set up your favorite game to do a 180 for a full swipe of your mousepad. then use the same dpi on your new mouse and keep adjusting your new mouse's dpi until it does a 180 for the same sensitivity.

 

Sometimes it defaults to a different dpi or maybe you pressed the "change dpi" button.

Edited June 13, 20232 yr by randomguy7

Ive tried maybe i should try lowering the DPI from 800

27 minutes ago, Alastorsx said:

Ive tried maybe i should try lowering the DPI from 800

what was your old mouse? did it not have 1000hz polling rate? if not, then I'd suggest using the faster mouse's camera framerate

Edited June 14, 20232 yr by randomguy7

All my mice have had up to 1000hz

Ive had the the glorious model d, g502, and a razer mouse.

if I don't play for a week or so the sens can feel much faster when I get back to it. Likewise, if I am particularly caffeinated on a given day, it can feel far slower than usual.

The short version is no one can debug your feels, but sensitivity is measurable. If the cursor moves the same distance on the screen as it does on the pad day to day then the variable is you, not the mouse.

e.g if you are at 400 DPI, then 1/400th of linear inch movement with the mouse sends a count of 1 to the operating system, at Windows 6/11, this is converted into 1 pixel displacement. So if you are at 1080p, then you need 1920 "400th's of an inch" of mouse pad movement to move from one side of the desktop to the other - therefore, 1/400 * 2.54 * 1920 = 12.192cm on the mouse pad. 

If it's within +/- 10% or so of that it's probably just the natural variance of the surface or a little DPI deviation (which you can test on this site), but this would be consistent and not changing day to day. You can just use a tape measure on your mouse pad to confirm it's the same even if it feels different to you.

Also, goes without saying that you'd need Enhance Pointer Precision unchecked in mouse settings to test like this

Edited June 24, 20232 yr by TheNoobPolice

"If the cursor moves the same distance on the screen as it does on the pad day to day then the variable is you, not the mouse."

 

How about if it doesn't, what would be the/some of the reasons as to why physical mouse distance isn't being mirrored on the display just out of curiosity? Has there been any well knows reasons or causal factors, or is this no-mans land?

On 11/21/2023 at 1:48 AM, sqwash said:

How about if it doesn't, what would be the/some of the reasons as to why physical mouse distance isn't being mirrored on the display just out of curiosity? Has there been any well knows reasons or causal factors, or is this no-mans land?

Surface tuning, the sensor not being calibrated to the mousepad can cause issues. But it will usually feel horrible all the time, and I think this option is a thing of the past, at least for Logitech.

Understood. Just to clarify, you recommend using a mouse software’s surface tuning as opposed to the OOBE/ no configuration in general?

 

nice one!

2 minutes ago, sqwash said:

Just to clarify, you recommend using a mouse software’s surface tuning as opposed to the OOBE/ no configuration in general?

It might depend on the mouse, but for newer mice, and at least for Logitech, I would say no surface tuning. They have removed it from the software I think, or it might only show up for older mice, not sure.

There was an issue years ago where the distance from the surface to the sensor caused issues depending on the material of the mousepad, hard, soft, cloth etc. Not sure if this was an issue with laser sensors or in general.

Yikes, seems like a pretty big oversight that should have been caught in the QA phase. 

 

Thanks for the info!

A SOLUTION FOR ME ( READ BELOW )
In this i am not talking about all those fixes but a work around that helped me to enjoy games like i used to play. 
my problem- my sens felt like on ice and doubled in games while everything was same and it was causing me many issues and i found no fix for this and was feeling sad.
solution - God helped me by showing me thread of Raw accel a program which i downloaded and then set my mouse dpi and polling rate of my mouse and since the sens was feeling double for me i used sens multiplayer and entered 0.5 there and went in game and guess what after months i felt familiar once again and its not placebo trust me it helped me , it may not help you all but there is no hurt in trying for yourself and also you can use sens multiplyer as how you are feeling i was feeling my sens doubled so therefore used 0.5 . hope it can help someone it helped me so i am sharing it and trust me that 0.5 dont feel same when i used bugged 800 dpi ( which felt icey and not in control ) if you have any more question feel free to ask me. i hope it helps you . All G./ 
Note- the fast movement is still there but its very much controllable unlike earlier and and i hit those shots .
testing - after testing for 5 hours i am very glad i like it very much its almost better then orginal idk how lol and trust me its not placebo i was immortal 3 in valorant last act . 
Again i hope it can help you if not you can try other setting in raw accell like custom acceleration and more mine is only 0.5 sens multiplayer other setting is turned off no acceleration in use//.