Borderlands 3

[DPI Wizard]

9 hours ago, Skwuruhl said:

Yeah I had a lot of issues trying to find any kind of consistent scaling. I don't know if it's just coincidence from the scopes I checked but listed scope power (e.g. 5.5x zoom) is approximately the proper zoom amount (e.g. the image on screen actually gets approximately 5.5 times larger). It's hard to tell exactly because the scope moves around while in ADS.

This makes the ADS sensitivity scaling so oddly even more difficult to understand since they seem to grasp the proper concept of zoom ratio. I doubt it's related to viewspeed since that's a mathematically nonsensical method (then again the borderlands scaling seems to be nonsensical too so who knows).

Edit: ADS sensitivity may change based on scope sway. This could be a compensation thing where fighting the sway doesn't mess with your crosshair placement, or it could be a bug. It's hard to tell.

The scope power they seem to have nailed. Using image comparison is not going to be 100% since the center of rotation moves when you zoom. I think it's in front when in hipfire (i.e. where your eyes would be) and actually center when zoomed. I've analyzed a lot of scopes now, and doing image comparison is so close to the true scope power that we can assume it is this. Measuring the FOV doing edge to edge turns also supports this (very hard with the sway though).

It definitely is not related to viewspeed, it just happens to be close to it.

I'm able to measure the 360 distance scoped with 100% precision. While the scope sways, the sway does not translate to any change un-zoomed in hipfire. So a fixed point in hipfire will always be the same and can be used as a reference point.

[Skwuruhl]

2 hours ago, sonorciff said:

Imagine if you get banned for trying to use a basic setting that should have been in base game. Gearbox....

Game has no anti-cheat

2 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

I'm able to measure the 360 distance scoped with 100% precision. While the scope sways, the sway does not translate to any change un-zoomed in hipfire. So a fixed point in hipfire will always be the same and can be used as a reference point.

It's a minor effect but I noticed if I do many rotations then I'll end up over/undershooting almost at random. I can't tell if it is actually random or linked to the sway but I think it might be.

[sonorciff]

1 hour ago, Skwuruhl said:

Game has no anti-cheat

I hope it stays that way then. Which cheat engine is it? I've found a few but can't seem to find reference to sensitivity. Also can it edit zoom sens?

[fortunate reee]

7 hours ago, QQ1066684750 said:

After 5hour play borderlands 3 and back to PUBG, my aim already fucked lol~

sensitivity 2 = too slow, sensitivity 3 = too fast~~ come on 2K

set your dpi to 100 for more accuracy

[DPI Wizard]

4 minutes ago, fortunate reee said:

set your dpi to 100 for more accuracy

That works for the aiming sensitivity, but the cursor in the menus will be horrendously slow!

[PS4]

can somebody please convert 800dpi 4 sens in overwatch to borderland 3 for me?

[fortunate reee]

On 24/09/2019 at 06:55, PS4 said:

can somebody please convert 800dpi 4 sens in overwatch to borderland 3 for me?

if you want a somewhat realistic sense in the game 200  dpi is pretty close to useable 

both 400 and 800 have huge discrepamcies

[LordBane]

The hipfire sense values are completely incorrect. my apex sense is 2.5 at 600 dpi which is 11inchs , it says my sense in this game should be 8 when i manually measured it , it shouldve been 5

Edited September 27, 2019 by LordBane
I was wrong , its the way the game handles FOV and sensitivity

[DPI Wizard]

2 hours ago, LordBane said:

The hipfire sense values are completely incorrect. my apex sense is 2.5 at 600 dpi which is 11inchs , it says my sense in this game should be 8 when i manually measured it , it shouldve been 5

Did you enter your configured FOV for Borderlands? Just checked the calculations and they are spot on. Test with Kovaak's Sensitivity matcher if you have any doubt.

[LordBane]

28 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Did you enter your configured FOV for Borderlands? Just checked the calculations and they are spot on. Test with Kovaak's Sensitivity matcher if you have any doubt.

After testing its weird to see that the mouse sensitivity is tied to FOV i havent seen that before in other games. but just seems like the sensitivity in the game in general is all over the place but your calculations do seem correct my bad

[DPI Wizard]

Just now, LordBane said:

After testing its weird to see that the mouse sensitivity is tied to FOV i havent seen that before in other games. but just seems like the sensitivity in the game in general is all over the place but your calculations do seem correct my bad

You can see if the game have sensitivity affected by FOV in the game info

It's not that uncommon actually, about 25% of games currently in the calculator are affected by FOV.

The sensitivity in BL3 could definitely be better, especially aim sensitivity.

[big engine]

The calculator suggest me a sens of 
Look Sensitivity 6
ADS Sensitivity 7
Vehicle Sensitivity 6
But every time i edit it and get out the config menu it changes to 5/7/5

Anyone has this problem?

[WhoCares?]

Does the Steam-version handel's sensitivity any different?

Also, does the memory-editor way of changing the sensitivity works for the steam version as well? And can I risk a ban for changing the sensitivity via the cheat-engine?

[WhoCares?]

I tried changing the sensitivity with cheat-engine, but I could not identify the address

[morty]

9 hours ago, WhoCares? said:

I tried changing the sensitivity with cheat-engine, but I could not identify the address

I was able to find it but had to change values and scan like 10 times to get it to only two values.

[WhoCares?]

11 minutes ago, morty said:

I was able to find it but had to change values and scan like 10 times to get it to only two values.

For me, I always have 0 results as the second scan What is your address for sensitivity? (maybe its the same for everyone)

[AngelCakePie]

Yes seems the steam version for cheat engine is different now.

[Matasay]

Try this table.

Borderlands3.CT

[Skwuruhl]

Are you following these steps?
 

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Use cheat engine to search for a float. The value you search for is 10% of the value you have the slider set to.

e.g.:

Set slider to 10

Search for 1

Set slider to 7

Search for 0.7 etc.

Once you've found the addresses set using the calculator 

 

[AngelCakePie]

Ah, I did not set the value type to float. Thank you!

[Carlos Resurreccion]

@DPI Wizard I'm not entirely sure I understand the conversation that occurred in this thread. My Hipfire from Overwatch converted nicely (8.53, 550 DPI, MDV 0%), but Iron Sight ADS feels weird.

What weapon scopes am I supposed to be using to get proper conversion? Actual scopes? Iron sights? Etc. Or does ADS Sens work for all types of guns? I see that the calculator says ADS is for 2.2x zoom, but you say they nailed the scope sens, so are other scopes (5x) okay? Are Iron sights screwed up?

Edited August 8, 2020 by Carlos Resurreccion

[DPI Wizard]

4 minutes ago, Carlos Resurreccion said:

@DPI Wizard I'm not entirely sure I understand the conversation that occurred in this thread. My Hipfire from Overwatch converted nicely (8.53, 550 DPI, MDV 0%), but Iron Sight ADS feels weird.

What weapon scopes am I supposed to be using to get proper conversion? Actual scopes? Iron sights? Etc. Or does ADS Sens work for all types of guns? I see that the calculator says ADS is for 2.2x zoom, but you say they nailed the scope sens, so are other scopes (5x) okay? Are Iron sights screwed up?

They nailed the scope power, not the sens I think. Last time I checked everything scaled differently with seemingly no logic, but let me know which scope you want (post a pic of the whole gun maybe) and I'll see if I can add it.

[Carlos Resurreccion]

1 hour ago, DPI Wizard said:

They nailed the scope power, not the sens I think. Last time I checked everything scaled differently with seemingly no logic, but let me know which scope you want (post a pic of the whole gun maybe) and I'll see if I can add it.

I think Iron Sights all zoom to the same amount. Could you add those? These are two very different guns, with no indicated zoom, so I'm assuming it's Iron Sights. This is at 94 FOV, 16:9 (1080p). I did some testing and the FOV is exactly the same. Other than that, the scope levels are ridiculously varied, so it seems like a big hassle to add those, and this game doesn't really need zoom anyway, since everything's in your face, so Iron Sights would be good if you can please.

But in case you wanted to know, I've seen: 1.5x, 2.2x, 2.5x, 2.6x, 3x, 5x, 5.1x. I'm expecting there to be more.

 

[DPI Wizard]

Can you take a screenshot like this so I see all the weapon stats etc?

[Carlos Resurreccion]

21 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

Can you take a screenshot like this so I see all the weapon stats etc?

Alright @DPI Wizard, here you go, this is one of the many Iron Sights guns.